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	<title>Comments on: JPEG Optimization : The Fireworks Advantage</title>
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		<title>By: browserFruits: Fotospecial der Woche &#124; KWERFELDEIN &#124; Digitale Fotografie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[browserFruits: Fotospecial der Woche &#124; KWERFELDEIN &#124; Digitale Fotografie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 08:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Eine sehr lehrreiche Erkl&#228;rung &#252;ber das Minimieren der Dateigr&#246;&#223;en in Photoshop vs. Fireworks gibt’s es bei Assorted Garbage, auch f&#252;r diejenigen die nur mit Photoshop [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Eine sehr lehrreiche Erkl&#228;rung &#252;ber das Minimieren der Dateigr&#246;&#223;en in Photoshop vs. Fireworks gibt’s es bei Assorted Garbage, auch f&#252;r diejenigen die nur mit Photoshop [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Louis</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Louis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 09:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I too noticed the difference in file size however I also noticed significantly more jpeg artifact when using Fireworks noticeable even at 100% image size. This was the case even when I bumped up the jpeg quality from the default 80% to 90%. There again, Fireworks&#039; batch processing is better than Photoshop&#039;s for web purposes because using Actions and Save for Web and Devices, you cannot change the destination folder after you have created the Action. The batch processing from Bridge cannot override it. So basically every time you have to create a new action when you use Save for Web and Devices if you want files to go to a different folder.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too noticed the difference in file size however I also noticed significantly more jpeg artifact when using Fireworks noticeable even at 100% image size. This was the case even when I bumped up the jpeg quality from the default 80% to 90%. There again, Fireworks&#8217; batch processing is better than Photoshop&#8217;s for web purposes because using Actions and Save for Web and Devices, you cannot change the destination folder after you have created the Action. The batch processing from Bridge cannot override it. So basically every time you have to create a new action when you use Save for Web and Devices if you want files to go to a different folder.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 17:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The choice between Fireworks and Photoshop is really a matter of preference and, of course, experience. For those of us who have been using Fireworks since its creation, Photoshop can be very &quot;awkward&quot;. Sadly, because I use both programs, I can&#039;t see the differences from a new user&#039;s perspective. I guess the only thing to do is download the trial and play with both. See which one feels &quot;right&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The choice between Fireworks and Photoshop is really a matter of preference and, of course, experience. For those of us who have been using Fireworks since its creation, Photoshop can be very &#8220;awkward&#8221;. Sadly, because I use both programs, I can&#8217;t see the differences from a new user&#8217;s perspective. I guess the only thing to do is download the trial and play with both. See which one feels &#8220;right&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohit</title>
		<link>http://blog.assortedgarbage.com/2009/10/jpeg-optimization-the-fireworks-advantage/comment-page-1/#comment-2762</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mohit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m new to template design. Is learning Fireworks better option for me than Photoshop?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m new to template design. Is learning Fireworks better option for me than Photoshop?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://blog.assortedgarbage.com/2009/10/jpeg-optimization-the-fireworks-advantage/comment-page-1/#comment-2730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 20:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard,
You suggest making an image that is the same size in both programs to see which one looks better. Excellent idea - and in that challenge, Fireworks is an even clearer winner! You can use File&gt;Export Wizard in Fireworks and the Optimize to File Size option in the Save for Web dialog&#039;s Preset options in Photoshop to try it for yourself.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,<br />
You suggest making an image that is the same size in both programs to see which one looks better. Excellent idea &#8211; and in that challenge, Fireworks is an even clearer winner! You can use File>Export Wizard in Fireworks and the Optimize to File Size option in the Save for Web dialog&#8217;s Preset options in Photoshop to try it for yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Roche</title>
		<link>http://blog.assortedgarbage.com/2009/10/jpeg-optimization-the-fireworks-advantage/comment-page-1/#comment-2728</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Richard Roche]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems more like the quality ratings on the two programs are just at different scales.  For example, and &quot;80&quot; in fireworks is more like a &quot;60 on photoshop.  I think a more fair test would be to create two images of equal file size in each program and compare the two in order to see which one looks better.  I tested this on a few photos, and photoshop was the clear winner even at only 100% magnification.  It seems to keep more sharpness, and fireworks seems to add a little blur even with the settings at 0 for smoothing. I&#039;d be more likely to say that photoshop actually offers more bang for your buck in regards to quality vs filesize.  At the very least, I think it is entirely inaccurate to say that fireworks significantly reduces the file size, it really just adds in more compression at higher compression ratings.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems more like the quality ratings on the two programs are just at different scales.  For example, and &#8220;80&#8243; in fireworks is more like a &#8220;60 on photoshop.  I think a more fair test would be to create two images of equal file size in each program and compare the two in order to see which one looks better.  I tested this on a few photos, and photoshop was the clear winner even at only 100% magnification.  It seems to keep more sharpness, and fireworks seems to add a little blur even with the settings at 0 for smoothing. I&#8217;d be more likely to say that photoshop actually offers more bang for your buck in regards to quality vs filesize.  At the very least, I think it is entirely inaccurate to say that fireworks significantly reduces the file size, it really just adds in more compression at higher compression ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Greg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 22:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@btn Not specific to optimization, but the Fireworks CS5 release is hardcore in terms of speed and stability, and in Photoshop CS5, well what can you say about Content Aware Fill other than &quot;wow&quot;?! The Photoshop team is definitely hearing the growing chorus of PS users that are taking a look at Fireworks for their web workflows though! ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@btn Not specific to optimization, but the Fireworks CS5 release is hardcore in terms of speed and stability, and in Photoshop CS5, well what can you say about Content Aware Fill other than &#8220;wow&#8221;?! The Photoshop team is definitely hearing the growing chorus of PS users that are taking a look at Fireworks for their web workflows though! ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: btn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[btn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 00:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are there any updates on this front in CS5? Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there any updates on this front in CS5? Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Lowry</title>
		<link>http://blog.assortedgarbage.com/2009/10/jpeg-optimization-the-fireworks-advantage/comment-page-1/#comment-1813</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris Lowry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As almost a solely Fireworks using web designer (if they brought in custom brushes, i could say goodbye to Photoshop), i get very frustrated with the lack of knowledge people have about the program. It beats photoshop at this stuff effortlessly, and i feel the whole FW program is much more intuitively designed.

Just a shame Adobe are showing so little support for it. CS4 has been out more than a year, and I&#039;m STILL dealing with bugs that werent in CS3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As almost a solely Fireworks using web designer (if they brought in custom brushes, i could say goodbye to Photoshop), i get very frustrated with the lack of knowledge people have about the program. It beats photoshop at this stuff effortlessly, and i feel the whole FW program is much more intuitively designed.</p>
<p>Just a shame Adobe are showing so little support for it. CS4 has been out more than a year, and I&#8217;m STILL dealing with bugs that werent in CS3.</p>
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		<title>By: Assorted GARbage&#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Secret to Transparency with PNG8&#8217;s and IE6</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Assorted GARbage&#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Secret to Transparency with PNG8&#8217;s and IE6]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] directly from Photoshop &#8211; and under most circumstances that would be okay. (Although I did write a post explaining the &#8220;disadvantages&#8221; of exporting jpg images from Photoshop.) In this instance, however, [...]]]></description>
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